Welcome to Generation Swap, a project and podcast about connecting across all stages of life.

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No doubt you’ve heard of a ‘generation gap,’ but what’s a Generation Swap?

It’s a place where mentors and mentees — we call them Swapmates — come together to talk about goals, passions, and values, bringing out the full potential in each other. Rather than focusing on what divides us across generations, we explore all the ways in which we’re connected to each other. Don’t have a Swapmate? We’ll give you ideas on how to find one.

We use the term Swapmate — rather than mentor and mentee — because learning is a 2-way street. Swapmates listen, guide, and encourage, helping each other figure out life!

At the same time, this 2-way street has an important detour: research shows that it’s in the second half of life that many people discover their most authentic self, leading to greater life satisfaction.

Generation Swap is part of an Aquinas College class that reaches far beyond the boundaries of our campus. We’re sponsored by the Aquinas Advantage Center. Join us for conversations about the dance of life!

Recent Episodes:

Eileen & Savannah

Eileen & Savannah

Eileen Chamberlin, originally from Illinois, has been living in Michigan since 1995. She and her husband have two daughters now successfully released into the world, plus three dogs and a cat still...

Jan & Sophia

Jan & Sophia

Jan Slotten retired in 2019 after a 37+-year career with Farmers (Foremost) Insurance Company, where she served as a project manager, copywriter, operations manager, and more. Jan earned her Masters...

Jenny & Hannah

Jenny & Hannah

Jenny Wood Shangraw graduated from Aquinas College in 1971 and then worked at the Grand Rapids Public Library, specializing in business, demographics, economics, and cultural history.  This...

Dan & Cristian

Dan & Cristian

Dan Measday is 76 years old and a 1970 graduate of Aquinas College. A native of New Jersey, he has lived in Michigan for over 50 years. Dan is a sports fan and follows baseball, football, ice...

Cindy & Abby

Cindy & Abby

Cindy Ritter grew up in Detroit and has lived in Grand Rapids for 55 years. She began her career as a dental hygienist and later became an elementary school teacher after graduating from Aquinas. ...

Kate & Jessy

Kate & Jessy

Kate Schirmer grew up in Grand Rapids and later moved to rural Newaygo County. She raised two boys and worked as a swim teacher before returning to school as a non-traditional aged student to get a...

Tom & Carson

Tom & Carson

Tom Miller is a Michigan native. He’s lived much of his life in the Grand Rapids area, as well as having spent several formative years in Kalamazoo and Pennsylvania. He retired a few years ago from...

Steve & Olivia

Steve & Olivia

Steve Murray was born and raised in the Grand Rapids area and has spent his entire life in West Michigan. In retirement he enjoys hanging with his dog, watching grandkids’ sporting events, taking...

Penny & Jessica

Penny & Jessica

Penny Murray's 72-year life journey is founded on faith. She is blessed with 3 children and 9 grandchildren, satisfied in 44 years of nursing, and partnered today with Steve in the joy of life-long...

Explore the Stories

Values

Eboo Patel

Muslim father teaches lessons about standing up for Jewish friend

career

Gerri Detweiler

Financial advocacy for individuals and small business owners

Mentoring

Nicholas Wolterstorff

3 key questions for figuring out your career path

Relationships

George & Susan Heartwell

The joys and challenges of 48 years of marriage

The Generation Swap Creative Team:

Cindy Kamp

Creator and Host

Gary Eberle

Cohost and Program Director

John Griffin

Executive Producer

Dana Hebreard

Career and Connections Expert

Brigid Avery

Consultant for All Things Creative

Sean O’Melia

Consultant for All Things Tech

Gary Eberle & Lexi Schaub

The Voices of Generation Swap

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